Nottingham beat group 1964-1967
Front: Tony D (Ian Goodall)
Originally called the “Nashville Men” from Oldham, Lancashire they were persuaded to move to Nottingham from Manchester by Nottingham agent Phil Smith at the end of 1963. They changed their name to Tony D and the Shakeouts and recorded for PYE records releasing their first record in February 1964. Seen as a rival to local Nottingham group “The Beatmen” they made the front page of the New Musical Express and settled into the thriving live circuit both in Nottingham and nationally. They released another record in 1965 as The Shakeouts and continued through 1966 and eventually petered out in early 1967. In 1967 a merger between Tony D and another local Nottingham beat group came to nothing and with the changing musical climate their time as a musical force was up.
Also including The Tame River Boys, The Flintstones, The Nashville Men, The Shakeouts, Tony D and the Tempo Victors, Flavour and The Elegants.
Main “Tony D and the Shakeouts” line up, circa 1964:
Ian Goodall: Guitar, Vocals
Pete Cook: Bass
Ian Fenn: Piano (b. Sunday, June 7, 1942, Oldham, Lancashire, England)
Barry Satchelle: Drums
There are a few clips of the group playing in 1964 in Oldham on this Granada TV programme on YouTube.
Music researcher John Warburg has provided me with a lot of facts (October 2023) which I have used and illustrated in the following appreciation of their story.
On the manchesterbeat website their is a mention of Bill Cook player bass with the Nashville Men. When Ian Fenn spoke to John Warburg he never mentioned anyone by that name so I assume it is a mistake and meant to be Peter Brooks.
The story starts with piano player Ian Fenn, born in 1942, who lived at 5 Vine Street, Chadderton, Lancashire. In 1954 at 12, Ian started studying at South Chadderton Secondary School, Butterworth Lane, Chadderton, Oldham where he graduated in 1957. The first group Ian was involved with were The Tame River Boys from Ashton, Lancashire named after the river with flows through the east side of Manchester. Still billed as an Oldham group they played on the local circuit in 1960 and 1961.
THE TAME RIVER BOYS (1961)
At the time Ian Fenn was doing a mechanical engineering apprenticeship at Stone Wallwork Engineering Ltd, Oldham. It was here he met David Wolfenden. Later aged 19, in 1961, Ian moved into the drawing office as a junior draughtsman. Along with David Wolfenden, Ian Fenn then formed a new group called The Flintstones at the beginning of 1962.
THE FLINTSTONES (1962)
Neil Bromley: Lead Vocals
Dave Wolfenden: Lead guitar (b. David Wolfenden, c. 1942)
Allen X: Rhythm Guitar
Ian Fenn: Piano (b. Sunday, June 7, 1942, Oldham, Lancashire, England)
Unknown: Drums
During 1961 and 1962 there were at least three other groups called The Flinstones doing the rounds, maybe more. It wasn’t uncommon in the early 1960’s for many groups to share the same name and as most of them never strayed from their local circuit they probably remained unaware of the others existence. One group also based in Manchester were called Fred and the Flinstones. They were an alter ego of Kirk Daniels and The Deltas. Formed in 1960, they included Kirk Daniels (Henry Morris Jnr) on lead vocals who sadly passed away 2007 and future Hollies bass player Eric Haydock (Eric Haddock). They were later joined in 1962 by two more future Hollies, Allan Clarke and Graham Nash, who used the names, Ricky and Dane Young. The band also dressed up and played gigs as Fred and the Flintstones.
Another two groups, one based in London and one in Scotland were playing as The Flintstones during 1962 and a Liverpool group too and in the interest of fairness there is a little on them all here.
Some of the advertisements I have found can be a little difficult to attribute to the right “Flintstones” but Ian Fenn and the Flintstones played on the Manchester live circuit at places like the New Plaza Ballroom, Swinton, the College Theatre Club, the Bodega on Cross Street, Birch Park Palace, Anson Road, Rusholme, Hi-Fi off Sackville Street, Manchester and the Pacific off Market Street, Manchester.
Because Ian Fenn and the Flintstones (maybe sometimes The Flinstone Five) were often on the same bill as Kirk Daniels and the Deltas who sometimes performed as Fred and the Flinstones it is highly likely they both combined their forces on certain nights. They must have known each other pretty well. I guess we will never be absolutely sure which was which after such a long time so some paper cuttings may not be exactly correct.
JUNE 1962
JULY 1962
SEPT 1962
OCT 1962
THE NASHVILLE MEN (1962)
After The Flintstones ran their course Ian Fenn joined the new Oldham group The Nashville Men at the end of 1962. A very early gig was:
1962: The Champness Hall, Drake Street, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Also on the bill: The Hollies.
THE NASHVILLE MEN (1963)
Line up *1 (1963)
Ian Goodall: Guitar, Vocals (b. India 1944)
Pete Brooks: Bass (b. 1944)
Ian Fenn: Piano (b. Sunday, June 7, 1942, Oldham, Lancashire, England)
John Kirkham: Drums (b. 1944 d. August 2015)
Ian Goodall lived at 36 Hudson Street, Hollinwood, Lancashire and Pete Cook at 12 Cobham Avenue, Moston, Manchester 40. They went to Barlow Hall School, Darley Avenue, Chorlton-cum-Hardy, Manchester 21 along with John Kirkham. At some point in 1963 Kirkham left and was replaced by 19-year-old drummer, vocalist Barry Satchelle (b. 1944). He lived at 108 Stockport Road, Mossley, Lancashire.
Line up *2 (1963)
Ian Goodall: Guitar, Vocals (b. India 1944)
Pete Brooks: Bass (b. 1944)
Ian Fenn: Piano (b. Sunday, June 7, 1942, Oldham, Lancashire, England)
Barry Satchelle: Drums, Vocals (b. 1944)
With Beatlemania in full swing and Beat music the predominant sound The Nashville Men, with their roadie Harry Proctor, soon found themselves plenty of live work. They signed up with The Alan Arnison Agency of Spring Gardens, Manchester and started playing Manchester clubs like the Club Creole, Wilmslow, the Twisted Wheel, the Spiders Web, Oasis Teen Club, Princess Theatre Club, Chorlton, Jungfrau, The Limit, Ashton Palais and the Three Coins.
The Alan Arnison Agency started in 1961 booking acts for Manchester’s early jazz boom and Liverpool’s Cavern Club in the Swinging Sixties and they are still operating today in the 2020’s. You can read about them on the Manchesterbeat website. Also, there is a small feature on the Nashville Men too.
Some gigs:
Friday, March 15, 1963: The Twisted Wheel Club, 30 Brazennose Street off Albert Square, Manchester 2, Lancashire, England.
Saturday, March 30, 1963: The Marlborough Hall, Crossley Street, Halifax, West Yorkshire, England
Friday, April 5, 1963: The Twisted Wheel Club, 30 Brazennose Street off Albert Square, Manchester 2, Lancashire, England
Friday, April 26, 1963: The Twisted Wheel Club, 30 Brazennose Street off Albert Square, Manchester 2, Lancashire, England
Sunday, June 2, 1963: The Twisted Wheel Club, 30 Brazennose Street off Albert Square, Manchester 2, Lancashire, England
Friday, June 21, 1963: The Urmston Civic Hall, Urmston, Manchester 41, Lancashire, England, 7.30pm – 10.45pm. Also on the bill: Freddie and the Dreamers.
Saturday, June 29, 1963: The Twisted Wheel Club, 30 Brazennose Street off Albert Square, Manchester 2, Lancashire, England
Saturday, July 13, 1963: The Club Creole, The Rex Ballroom, 23-25 Alderley Road, Wilmslow, Cheshire, England, 7.45pm – 11.30pm
Saturday, July 20, 1963: The Twisted Wheel Club, 30 Brazennose Street off Albert Square, Manchester 2, Lancashire, England
Sunday, September 1, 1963: The Twisted Wheel Club, 30 Brazennose Street off Albert Square, Manchester 2, Lancashire, England
Friday, September 27, 1963: The Twisted Wheel Club, 30 Brazennose Street off Albert Square, Manchester 2, Lancashire, England
Friday, October 18, 1963: The Twisted Wheel Club, 30 Brazennose Street off Albert Square, Manchester 2, Lancashire, England
The Nashville Men also also played further afield at the Bury Palais, Kings Hall, Stoke, St George’s Ballroom, Hinkley and at the “Nottingham Beat Club” at the Rainbow Rooms on Broad Street at the very end of October 1963. This was to be pivotal moment for the group. It was here that they likely met Nottingham agent Phil Smith who would persuade them to move to Nottingham and be represented by Phil’s Agency. Phil Smith, (b. Phillip Smith, Tuesday, May 28, 1940, 35 Sheepbridge Lane, Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England), was now living in Keyworth, Notts and, after being a hospital disc Jockey, formed his “City Enterprises Agency” alongside Michael Parker and well known local Notts musician Reg Guest. The group moved to Nottingham in November 1963 just as things were looking up for them.
Friday, November 29, 1963: The Twisted Wheel Club, 30 Brazennose Street off Albert Square, Manchester 2, Lancashire, England
Saturday, December 7, 1963: The Festival Hall, Hodgkinson Road, Kirkby-in-Ashfield, Nottinghamshire, England, 7.30pm – 11.30pm. Also on the bill: Atlantas.
Christmas Eve, Tuesday, December 24, 1963: The Twisted Wheel Club, 30 Brazennose Street off Albert Square, Manchester 2, Lancashire, England. Also on the bill: Buddy Britten and the Regents, The Chris Nova Combo.
Friday, December 27, 1963: The Bodega Jazz Club, 15 Cross Street off Corporation Street, Deansgate, Manchester 2, Lancashire, England. Also on the bill: Denny Laine and the Diplomats.
Monday, December 30, 1963: The Princess Theatre Club, Barlow Moor Road, Chorlton-cum-Hardy, Manchester 21, Lancashire, England. Also on the bill: The Undertakers.
In December 1963 Nottingham agent Philip Smith describes the Nashville Men as “Ravinist” which seems to elude description, maybe a play on ravenous, unless anyone knows better.
In Late December 1963 The Nashville Men went to London to do a studio audition with Wayne Fontana and the Mindbenders and Johnny Peters and the Crestas. They also recorded an acetate for Pye Records ‘Is It True’ (Take 1) (Ian Fenn) and ‘Is It True’ (Take 2) (Ian Fenn) at Pye Studios, Great Cumberland Place, Bryanston Street, Marbel Arch, West London.
1964
Jan 1964
Then, still as The Nashville Men, in January 1964 recorded their only single ‘Is It True’ (Ian Fenn) and ‘Never Let Her Go’ (Pete Brooks) at Pye Studios, Great Cumberland Place, Bryanston Street, Marble Arch, West London. It was produced by Ray Horrocks (b. Raymond Horrocks, 1933 d. 2005). However, it would be released under a new group name.
In January 1964 The Nashville Men changed their name to Tony D and the Shakeouts to avoid confusion with The Nashville Teens, who had achieved some notable success, and Ian Goodall changed his name to Tony D. According to an article in The Chronicle it said that their name would be changed when a suitable one had been decided upon by their publicity manager, Leslie Perrin, who handled such stars as Tottenham, North London band The Dave Clark Five and Kent band Bern Elliott and the Fenmen. Leslie Perrin Associates Ltd. were the original press representative’s for Cliff Richard, many actors and later The Rolling Stones. The article also talked about the fact the group was virtually unknown, but still commanded a great following in the Manchester area.
The Fan club was run by Linda Bates, 20 Hollyhey Drive, Wythenshawe, Manchester, 23
The group were still advertised as being on Alan Arnison’s Agency in January 1964 but had now switched to Phil Smith’s City Enterprises Agency and now starting to play in the Notts, Lincs, Leic, Derby area more regularly.
Friday, January 31, 1964: The Twisted Wheel Club, 30 Brazennose Street off Albert Square, Manchester 2, Lancashire, England.
FEB 1964
TONY D AND THE SHAKEOUTS
Line up *1 (1963)
Ian Goodall (Tony D): Guitar, Vocals (b. India 1944)
Pete Brooks: Bass (b. 1944)
Ian Fenn: Piano (b. Sunday, June 7, 1942, Oldham, Lancashire, England)
Barry Satchelle: Drums, Vocals (b. 1944)
In February 1964 Tony D and the Shakeouts released their single ‘Is It True’ (Ian Fenn) and ‘Never Let Her Go’ (Pete Brooks) on Piccadilly 7N 35168.
They appeared on the front cover of the NME (New Musical Express) February 1964, the first Nottingham group to do so.
To promote the single in Nottingham Tony D and the Shakeouts played the Nottingham Beat club and the Mardi Gras charity ball at the Sherwood Rooms alongside Shane Fenton and the Fentones (not long before they broke up), The Jaybirds (One of Nottingham’s hottest groups), Alan Elsdon’s Jazz Band and actor and TV comedian Harry Worth.
MARCH 1964
Sunday, March 15, 1964: The Twisted Wheel Club, 30 Brazennose Street off Albert Square, Manchester 2, Lancashire, England. Also on the bill: The Beat Boys.
The group were appearing on TV, Radio and in magazines such as “Pop Weekly”.
APRIL 1964
Saturday, April 11, 1964: The Twisted Wheel Club, 30 Brazennose Street off Albert Square, Manchester 2, Lancashire, England. Advertised as Tony Dee and the Shakeouts.
MAY 1964
Tony D and the Shakeouts appear on the TV show “For Teenagers Only”.
Back in Nottingham there was some concern amongst the beat fans as to the validity of Tony D and the Shakeouts being a Nottingham group.
JUNE 1964
Another article from Midland Beat newspaper comparing Nottingham groups and their roots.
Phil Smith replies to last months readers letter defending Tony D and the Shakeouts.
JULY 1964
AUGUST 1964
Phil Smith left the City Enterprises Agency and formed “Banner Productions” which would prove to be just as successful.
SEPT 1964
OCT 1964
Phil Smith moved all his acts to the new “Banner Productions”. City Enterprises was dissolved.
Towards the end of 1964 a few changes happened with the group. Piano player Ian Fenn decided to leave and return to Oldham. This left the group as a three piece with a line up of:
Line up *2 (1964)
Ian Goodall (Tony D): Guitar, Vocals (b. India 1944)
Pete Brooks: Bass (b. 1944)
Barry Satchelle: Drums, Vocals (b. 1944)
The group also went back to the studio to record a follow up to “Is It True”. Ian Goodall recounts some memories:
“The three remaining Shakeouts recorded a follow up to “Is It True “which was a cover of a (then) little known Roy Orbison B side “Love Hurts” – for Piccadilly. Our version had caused quite a stir on a BBC Birmingham radio programme featuring several up and coming bands. Piccadilly , however played our recording to one of their other artists, a solo singer called Mark Winter and instead cut and released his version”.
The song was written by Boudleaux Bryant and sung by Roy Orbison and then Mark Wynter released his version late on in 1964.
During October and November 1964 The Shakeouts became the backing group for young starlet Lorraine Gray who had a couple of records released on Fontana.
Saturday, October 31, 1964: The Witch Doctor, The Dolphin, Marine Court, St. Leonards-on-Sea, Hastings, East Sussex, England. Also on the bill: Lorraine Gray, Ray Cleveland.
NOVEMBER 1964
1965
JANUARY 1965
FEB 1965
MARCH 1965
APRIL 1965
MAY 1965
JUNE 1965
I June Tony D and the Shakeouts headed to London to record a new single. It was at Joe Meeks studio and Ian Goodall (Tony D) describes the day:
After the failings of the last recording session at the end of 1964
“We were miffed to say the least so when Joe Meek sent our manager a demo by Frere Manston (Marty Wilde) of a song called “Well Who’s That?” we jumped at the chance to record it even though I personally hated it.
Arriving at Joe’s studio above a a shop on Holloway Road, we found , having set off from Nottingham at 5am that morning , no sign of life until eventually a disgruntled, dishevelled and euphemistically sleepy Joe Meek stumbled down the stairs cursing under his breath. The stairs were narrow and it wasn’t easy to carry our equipment up there. As we set up in the studio, Joe wandered round placing microphones and muttering sotto voce about “Fucking ignorant Northern Bastards”. I had a very short fuse in those days so I wittily riposted,
“Hey you! Twat ! We can always pack up and fuck off if you like”. (I hadn’t heard about the shotgun he kept in a cupboard).
Our manager calmed us both down and we took a break to get some breakfast in a cafe.
We came back to an entirely different Joe Meek -charming , courteous and full of inventive ideas for the “Well Who’s That” and my own B side “Every Little Once In a While” which he agreed was better. He even called in a session pianist and we spent hours over – dubbing vocal harmonies. By now , my song was to be the A side and with its cascading harmonies we thought we had a sure -fire hit.
Unfortunately whoever mastered it at Columbia had cloth ears and our glorious harmonies came out like shrieking cats -so the beckoning finger of fame became a flicked V sign. The track did make the local Manchester charts but I never received a penny from it BOO HOO. End Of Joe Meek anecdote”.
An acetate demo was cut.
JULY 1965
Sunday, July 11, 1965: The 76 Club, 76 High Street, Burton-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England
SEPT 1965
Friday, September 24, 1965: The 76 Club, 76 High Street, Burton-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England
At the end of September 1965 the group dropped the “Tony D” and became just “The Shakeouts”.
OCT 1965
The single “Every Little Once in a While” which was written by guitarist and singer Ian Goodall and bass player Peter Brooks was released. The B side was the Marty Wilde written “Well Who’s That”.
Sunday, October 17, 1965: The 76 Club, 76 High Street, Burton-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England
Also on the bill: The Merseybeats.
NOV 1965
Sunday, November 13, 1965: The Orchid Ballroom, Oxford, Oxfordshire, England
Also on the bill: The Fleur De Lys.
DECEMBER 1965
They were still occasionally billed as Tony D and the Shakeouts and over the years had made friends with many of the Nottingham groups. As well as The Beatmen and The Jaybirds they shared the stage with The Children, The In-Crowd and The Tempo Victors.
Sunday, December 19, 1965: The 76 Club, 76 High Street, Burton-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England
1966
JAN 1966
FEB 1966
Friday, February 11, 1966: The 76 Club, 76 High Street, Burton-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England
MARCH 1966
APRIL 1966
Friday, April 22, 1966: The 76 Club, 76 High Street, Burton-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England
MAY 1966
JUNE 1966
At some point in 1966 bass player Peter Brooks left The Shakeouts and was replaced by Tony Kinder. Peter Brooks later married a lady called Avril who sang in the big band at Hill Stores, Oldham. Peter Brooks also joined the dance band at Hill Stores.
Line up *3 (1966)
Ian Goodall (Tony D): Guitar, Vocals (b. India 1944)
Tony Kinder: Bass
Barry Satchelle: Drums, Vocals (b. 1944)
Friday, June 3, 1966: The 76 Club, 76 High Street, Burton-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England
JULY 1966
Friday, July 22, 1966: The 76 Club, 76 High Street, Burton-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England
AUGUST 1966
SEPT 1966
Friday, September 23, 1966: The 76 Club, 76 High Street, Burton-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England
NOV 1966
Friday, November 18, 1966: The 76 Club, 76 High Street, Burton-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England
DEC 1966
Wednesday, December 28, 1966: The 76 Club, 76 High Street, Burton-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England
Ian Fenn, who had left Tony D and the Shakeouts in 1964 formed a group called “The Elegants” in 1966 back in Lancashire.
1967
JAN 1967
FEB 1967
The Shakeouts came to an end in February 1967. Drummer Barry Satchelle had made friends with The Children and joined them as they were about to change their name to The Lovin’ after getting picked up by Page One Records leader Larry Page. Tony D and Tony Kinder joined two remaining members of Nottingham group The Tempo Victors becoming known as Tony D and the Tempo Victors before settling back on The Tempo Victors again.
TONY D AND THE TEMPO VICTORS
Line up (1967)
Tony D (Ian Goodall): Guitar, Vocals
Tony Kinder: Bass
Rudy Davis : Guitar
Tony ‘Sid’ Smith: Drums
MARCH 1967
APRIL 1967
They were still billed as The Shakeouts occasionally.
FLAVOUR
In 1968 with more line up changes the group changed their name to Flavour.
Line up: (1968/69)
Mick Wingfield: Drums
Tony Kinder: Bass
Roger Lymm: Guitar, Vocals
Ian Goodall: Guitar, Vocals
Flavour came to end sometime in 1969 and Ian Goodall returned home to Lancashire before the turn of the new decade.